Ashok Sukumaran—artist and co-founder of CAMP studio and the pad.ma project—hosts a discussion with Ravi Aharwal in response to his State of Nature in India 2019 lecture. Agarwal has an interdisciplinary background as an artist, photographer, environmental campaigner, writer, and curator, with a focus on the social and political role of nature. Sukumaran’s work explores contemporary infrastructures and art as a risky and expressive engagement with things larger and stranger than “us.” Together, Agarwal and Sukumaran wrangle with how we might better understand the complexities of anthropogenic processes. In collaboration with the Goethe-Institut / Max Mueller Bhavan Mumbai.